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  • 1.  NYS PTET Corporate Income Tax Presentation

    Posted 01-26-2022 05:51 PM

    We are not sure how to handle the PTET estimated tax payments on the income tax returns.  On the deduction side, is a NY Tax based on income, a NY Tax – other, or is it a Other deduction.  When it needs to be added back to NY Income, it doesn't appear to belong as a NY Franchise Tax imposed under Article 9-A, which would leave an other addition.  If you use that line, you need a code, and we couldn't find an appropriate one.  Any suggestions!

     

     

    Steven Furman CPA

    Furman & Hauswirth CPA's

    3000 Marcus Avenue

    Lake Success NY  11042

     

    sfurman@fhcpafirm.com

     



  • 2.  RE: NYS PTET Corporate Income Tax Presentation

    Platinum Most Valuable Member
    Posted 01-26-2022 06:32 PM

    Hello

     

    I too am uncertain exactly how to report,  but this is my understanding of the  tax treatment. It  is as follows:

    The PTET tax deducted on the Federal return is NOT added back to income when doing a NYS entity return.

    Instead the individual will pick up an "addition to income" which will be the exact same amount as the credit , which comes to the individual by virtue of the PTET return , but reported on the NYS K! of that entity return,

     

    The credit is figured on the PTET tax return and makes no distinction if the estimates of PTET   was paid in 2021  or  2022

     

     

    Hence NYS it-201 will not be affected by under or over estimating payments on the PTET tax return.  The federal will affected by this.

     

    The Individual's NYS return's addition to FEDERAL income is dependent only on the credit afforded to the taxpayer on that IT -201 , which is not dependent on the timing of payment.

     

    Did that answer your credit.

     

     

    And can you believe we still do not have a tem[plate to examine of the return yet.

     

     

    Any comments agreeing or disagreeing appreciated

     

     

    Abby

     

     

    Abby Alhante,  CPA

     

    Kurcias  & Alhante, LLC  CPAs

    525 Broadhollow Road   Suite 104

    Melville NY  11747

    516.829-5890  Ext  2   Fax 516-829-3976

    Mobile 516-381-9301

    AbbyA@KurciasAlhanteCPAs.com

    ( E mail response preferred )

     

     






  • 3.  RE: NYS PTET Corporate Income Tax Presentation

    Posted 01-26-2022 08:57 PM
    Thank you Abby, this was extremely helpful.  Other question, where would you deduct the estimated payment made in 2021?  Tax based on income, tax-other, or other deductions.

    Much Thanks

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    Steven Furman
    CPA
    FURMAN & HAUSWIRTH, CPAs
    Lake Success NY
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  • 4.  RE: NYS PTET Corporate Income Tax Presentation

    Platinum Most Valuable Member
    Posted 01-27-2022 02:24 PM
    i would GUESS        tax based on income... either way depending on your software.... i would make ceetin it would not add back as a NYS  change...  like the way  NYS "S"  corp tax does... 

    what software do you use ?

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    Abby Alhante
    KURCIAS & ALHANTE, CPAs LLC
    Melville NY
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  • 5.  RE: NYS PTET Corporate Income Tax Presentation

    Posted 02-02-2022 09:09 AM

    See attached response from NYS, no add-back of PTET required on the CT-3-S return:

     

    Good morning,

     

    The response to the PTET question you submitted online is below.

     

    Question: Is the payment of the Pass Thru entity Tax made in 2021 required to be added back to the Corporate net income on the CT-3-S return, similar to the add back for the NYS Franchise Tax Payment?

     

    Response: No. The addback of taxes paid to the state or other taxing jurisdictions, as required by Section 612(b)(3) of the Tax Law, does not include PTET paid by the pass-through entity. If pass-through entity taxes are reported as a deduction and included in the computation of ordinary business income reported on the electing S corporation's federal return, Form 1120S, then this amount is reported on Form CT-3-S, New York S Corporation Franchise Tax Return. The entity is not required to make any modification. The amount of the PTET credit claimed by the partners or members on their New York income tax returns must be added back only once, at the individual level, under Tax Law section 612(b)(43), using Form IT-225, New York State Modifications.

     

    Thank you.

     

    Tracy Miller


    Tax Regulations Specialist I

    Taxpayer Guidance

    New York State Department of Taxation and Finance
    W A Harriman Campus, Building 9, Albany NY 12227

    Tracy.Miller@tax.ny.gov

     

     

     

    Richard Prantil, CPA

    Lindy Tax Office

    220 N. Wellwood Ave

    Lindenhurst, NY 11757

    P: 631-226-4184

    F: 631-226-4258

    E rprantil@ttafc.com

     






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