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  • 1.  Handling Shareholder & Employee Debt Cancelation for LLC

    Silver Most Valuable Member
    Posted 04-02-2023 11:36 AM

    Fact Pattern:

    ·        Many years ago, shareholders and employees loaned LLC money to produce a film. This is in addition to equity contributed by shareholders

    ·        Formal loan agreements were drafted and signed by each loan holder and LLC's manager

    ·        Loans are not secured by any property

    ·        Accrued interest was recognized and reported each year. I.e., 1099s were issued, and the Company took the interest expense deduction

    ·        The film never made money – this is the LLC's final tax year

    Cancelation of Debt for accumulated accrued interest is being treated as income.

    The aggregate amount of loans is $600K. I'm seeking advice on how to report the loan cancellation as nontaxable income. I'm thinking of either declaring this as debt forgiveness as a gift (and filing gift tax returns) or converting the LLC to an S-Corp for tax purposes and canceling the debt. I don't think the cancellation of indebtedness is distributed to the shareholders of an S-Corp.

    There are 12 members scattered across the country, including one trust (one of the shareholders is now deceased), so converting to an S-Corp could be painful.

    Would you do the gift route? Any other thoughts/suggestions?

    Thanx in advance for any help/insights you may have.



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    Irene Wachsler, CPA
    Wachsler CPA LLC

    Contact:
    Irene Wachsler,
    Trusted Biz Advisor for small business & gig economy
    Cryptocurrency Tax Reporting
    Mass Film Tax Credits
    Wachsler CPA , LLC
    Cell: 781.883.3174
    Email: irene@iw-cpa.com
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  • 2.  RE: Handling Shareholder & Employee Debt Cancelation for LLC

    Posted 04-03-2023 02:23 AM
    Are all of the parties that loaned the money shareholders or are there some that are employees but not shareholders???   That may change the treatment??    Thanks





  • 3.  RE: Handling Shareholder & Employee Debt Cancelation for LLC

    Silver Most Valuable Member
    Posted 04-03-2023 08:27 AM

    Six loans - 4 from shareholders and 2 from employees. Aggregate amount is $600K.



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    Irene Wachsler, CPA
    Wachsler CPA LLC

    Contact:
    Irene Wachsler,
    Trusted Biz Advisor for small business & gig economy
    Cryptocurrency Tax Reporting
    Mass Film Tax Credits
    Wachsler CPA , LLC
    Cell: 781.883.3174
    Email: irene@iw-cpa.com
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  • 4.  RE: Handling Shareholder & Employee Debt Cancelation for LLC

    Silver Most Valuable Member
    Posted 04-04-2023 12:11 PM

    Converting to an S corp. would  possibly provide for Section 108(e)(6) and not (e)(8) -  if debt was used for losses look at 108(d)(7)(C).  Not sure if the conversion to the S changes the results. Otherwise look at the value of any partnership interest received for the contribution. (e)(8). 



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    Robert Barnett
    CPA, ESQ.
    Capell Barnett Matalon & Schoenfeld LLP
    Syosset NY
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