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  • 1.  Client Business be acquired in a stock sale

    Silver Most Valuable Member
    Posted 02-16-2023 07:58 AM

    My clients S corporation is being acquired in a stock sale. The purchasers are an investment group and intend to terminate the S election immediately upon purchase. Assuming the purchase takes place on 3/31 would that mean my client files a short year S corp return in 2023 and the purchaser files a Corp return for 2023 using the same federal id#?

    On a stock sale I assume they cannot change the federal ID# even though they are switching to C status.



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    Gabriel Bentovim
    HOFFMAN & BENTOVIM, CPAs PC
    Commack NY
    631-499-1500
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  • 2.  RE: Client Business be acquired in a stock sale

    Platinum Most Valuable Member
    Posted 02-16-2023 08:06 AM

    Hi Gabe

     

    Yes, you have it exactly right.  I had the identical situation .

    Let's kick it up a notch,  have you elected in to the PTET for 2022  and already for 2023 ?

     

    Is the purchaser planning on treating this as an asset purchase in substance, even though it was a stock purchase by contract. ? section 338 purchase ?

     

     

    Abby Alhante,  CPA

     

    Kurcias  & Alhante, LLC  CPAs

    525 Broadhollow Road   Suite 104

    Melville NY  11747

    516.829-5890  Ext  2   Fax 516-829-3976

    Mobile 516-381-9301

    AbbyA@KurciasAlhanteCPAs.com

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  • 3.  RE: Client Business be acquired in a stock sale

    Silver Most Valuable Member
    Posted 02-16-2023 10:23 AM

    Interesting that you ask that Abby. We were having that conversation last night pertaining to the 2023 election. I am hoping that if they make an election and a payment before closing then they will be able to use the PTET as the profit for the first quarter could be as much as $1,500,000 to $2,000,000 .

     

    Does it affect my client the seller how the purchaser chooses to treat the purchase?

     

     

     

     

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    GABE BENTOVIM

    HOFFMAN & BENTOVIM, C.P.A.'S P.C.

    6500 JERICHO TURNPIKE

    SUITE 206

    COMMACK, N.Y. 11725

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  • 4.  RE: Client Business be acquired in a stock sale

    Posted 02-18-2023 09:12 AM

    We had a client with a similar situation. The sale happened in 2022. An LLC paying taxes as an S-Corp sold for 80M. The transaction was a stock sale for Legal and an asset sale for tax. We researched IRC 1202 but did not meet the test. The entity was never a C Corp.

    We elected into the NYS PTET but the thing is that he will have a loss for the short year in 2022 and the capital gains will kick in at the individual level.

    Is there any other provision out there that could help reducing the capital gain. 



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    Nurys Santos CPA
    EDWARD D. HEBEN, CPA
    Thornwood NY
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  • 5.  RE: Client Business be acquired in a stock sale

    Silver Most Valuable Member
    Posted 02-16-2023 10:36 AM

    If the major allocation of my clients sale price is Goodwill and Customer List is it now more preferential for my client to agree to a deemed asset sale as they can use PTE for the state portion ? I would think that on a pure stock sale they could not apply PTE .

     

    The gain is over 30 million as an asset sale would they be able to pay 3 million to PTE ?

     

     

     

     

    IMPORTANT NOTICE: Never trust wiring instructions sent via email or text.   Always  confirm wiring instructions in person or via a telephone call to a trusted and verified phone number. Never wire money without double-checking that the wiring instructions are correct. We will never email or text wire instructions.

     

     

     

    GABE BENTOVIM

    HOFFMAN & BENTOVIM, C.P.A.'S P.C.

    6500 JERICHO TURNPIKE

    SUITE 206

    COMMACK, N.Y. 11725

    (631) 499-1500  TEL

    (631) 499-1638 FAX

     

     






  • 6.  RE: Client Business be acquired in a stock sale

    Platinum Most Valuable Member
    Posted 02-16-2023 11:49 AM

    Again

     

     

    I think you are on the money...

    That is exactly what we did... the gain on the sale was almost exclusively good will.

    But it was on the assets of the business. Hence, PTET applied to the gain.

     






  • 7.  RE: Client Business be acquired in a stock sale

    Posted 02-17-2023 04:56 AM
    As you stated this is a stock sale , it is presumed that the individuals will be reporting a capityal gain, consider plaanning the contracts of the transaction to take advantage of IRS Sec 1202 to exclude a part of the reportable gain, It is a great savings, as long as the transaction meets the tests, In order to qualify to must not be in an excludable industry and the sale must be set up as each of the individual shareholders selling their stock. If you read up on it you will see how long of an adavatage this little untilized code section can be





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